WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.560 --> 00:00:12.699 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you, Allison, so we will. We will start the Railers working group meeting Number 6 with a land acknowledgement. 2 00:00:14.470 --> 00:00:24.880 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): The San Francisco planning department acknowledges that we are on the unseeded ancestral homeland of the Ramitusholoni, who are the original inhabitants of the San Francisco. Peninsula 3 00:00:25.010 --> 00:00:35.659 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): as the indigenous stewards of this land, and in accordance with their traditions, the Ramitushiola have never ceded, lost, nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place. 4 00:00:35.780 --> 00:00:45.259 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. 5 00:00:45.430 --> 00:00:56.239 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): We wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elder elders, and relatives of the Ramatusian community, and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. 6 00:00:57.860 --> 00:00:59.100 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you, Alison. 7 00:01:01.230 --> 00:01:04.890 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): so welcome everyone and and thank you for joining us. 8 00:01:05.090 --> 00:01:27.909 We will start with our meeting purpose for today. There's 3 key items, and then I'll move on to the expanded agenda. First, we will be providing updates on caltrans, preliminary business case efforts. This item will be informational with opportunity for clarifying questions. We will dedicate about 10 min to this. Item. 9 00:01:28.220 --> 00:01:41.130 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Then we we will move on to continue to gather input on neighborhood mapping and potential public realm opportunities. This is an explorative item. There will be discussion, presentation, and discussion. 10 00:01:41.780 --> 00:01:47.909 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): and the third item will be to provide an overview of the planning context dashboard. 11 00:01:48.080 --> 00:01:53.329 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): This is also an informational item. It should be about 5 to 7 min. 12 00:01:55.310 --> 00:01:59.730 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): and we move to our expanded agenda. Here it is 13 00:01:59.980 --> 00:02:09.769 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): we. As part of our opening, we will do our checking and and our agenda checking review of agenda and updates. We will look at any community updates. 14 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:22.700 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): and also, as requested by the rail yards working group coordinators. We've been asked to include updates on related projects and efforts. So this is a new item that we have as part of our opening. 15 00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:33.689 Then we will dive in into the content starting with the preliminary business case of culturing efforts, then followed by neighborhood mapping public realm 16 00:02:33.910 --> 00:02:38.359 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): and and then finishing with the context, dashboard overview. 17 00:02:38.410 --> 00:02:46.959 We will be closing with group action items and activities and the next steps for the project team. 18 00:02:47.450 --> 00:02:57.499 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So I'd like to ask at this point. If anyone has any other items I would like to be added to the agenda. Please feel welcome to including the chat, or let me know 19 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:05.709 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): with no additional items. Is the group okay, to proceed with this agenda? 20 00:03:06.810 --> 00:03:09.440 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Can I see some nuts or thumbs up. 21 00:03:11.230 --> 00:03:15.590 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): I see a few thumbs up. Not great. Okay. 22 00:03:15.730 --> 00:03:26.579 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): great. I'd like to just thank the volunteer group of coordinators, Don Eric and Kuti for their help getting us and helping us develop the agenda. 23 00:03:26.860 --> 00:03:36.339 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): That was we. We really appreciate it. And with that, Alison, I'm gonna pass it on to you to guide us through the community updates. 24 00:03:38.970 --> 00:03:58.689 Allison Albericci: So as we've done in the past. We will start by hearing from you the public and the rail yards working group members. If there is anything going on in your community or announcements things, you wanna let other folks know about 25 00:03:58.740 --> 00:04:05.339 Allison Albericci: this is a moment just to tell us what has happened since we last met. 26 00:04:05.530 --> 00:04:07.559 Allison Albericci: 3 months ago. 27 00:04:18.290 --> 00:04:24.829 Allison Albericci: Are there any items of community feedback and or announcements? Go ahead, Bruce. 28 00:04:26.260 --> 00:04:35.789 Bruce Agid: Yeah, just real briefly. And I'm sure you already know this. But I guess I've heard probably in the last month about a lot of activity. 29 00:04:35.850 --> 00:04:58.290 Bruce Agid: of the developer. I guess Tishman is going to the planning commission for the the towers over there at fourth in Townsend. So I actually saw somebody yesterday and mentioned they mentioned that to me that that was gonna happen. So I'm sure you're already aware of that. But I just thought I'd bring it up for others who may not be. 30 00:04:59.300 --> 00:04:59.990 Allison Albericci: Yeah. 31 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:08.279 Allison Albericci: Michael, it looks like you're trying to save something. but we can't hear you. 32 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.639 Michael: Oh, no. Sorry I should be on mute. 33 00:05:12.740 --> 00:05:14.059 Michael: There we go. Thanks. 34 00:05:16.170 --> 00:05:17.250 Allison Albericci: Okay. 35 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:26.449 Allison Albericci: If there's anything else that comes to mind. Please let us know in the chat or you know. Raise your hand or 36 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.350 Allison Albericci: We can check in before we adjourn. 37 00:05:30.590 --> 00:05:36.359 Allison Albericci: I did want to check in on a few things 38 00:05:36.400 --> 00:05:42.960 Allison Albericci: that our team are tracking other plans and projects 39 00:05:43.030 --> 00:05:44.850 Allison Albericci: that. Inform 40 00:05:45.170 --> 00:05:58.660 Allison Albericci: our planning area? And and you know, we wanted to give you guys an update on that. We intend to do this regularly at the start of each meeting. So if hopefully, we'll catch 41 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.469 Allison Albericci: items that are of interest. 42 00:06:01.530 --> 00:06:10.329 Allison Albericci: So we'll start with the active community plan. That is an effort by Sfmta to update the citywide bicycle plan. 43 00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:26.139 Allison Albericci: It includes a network of facilities for bicycles and scooters and other micro mobility devices. And that has a 5 to 10 or sorry, a 10 to 15 year implementation horizon. So there's a draft 44 00:06:26.370 --> 00:06:28.529 Allison Albericci: of a network map. 45 00:06:29.210 --> 00:06:35.329 Allison Albericci: One thing to note is that that map does still and does include the Fifth Street. 46 00:06:35.370 --> 00:06:38.229 Allison Albericci: a pedestrian and bike bridge that 47 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:41.939 we have been talking about and tracking. 48 00:06:42.130 --> 00:06:50.360 Allison Albericci: and for folks who are interested in the active communities plan. They will be a workshop 49 00:06:50.510 --> 00:06:59.500 Allison Albericci: coming up on Saturday, January twentieth. So there's more information about that on the Mta website. Go ahead, Bruce. 50 00:07:02.730 --> 00:07:16.509 Bruce Agid: Thanks for mention that Allison, about different plans are going on. One thing that I didn't mention that I should is so I'm the kind of the lead for the Mission Bay Elementary School Steering Committee. 51 00:07:16.620 --> 00:07:22.250 Bruce Agid: and we just had a presentation from Sfcta 52 00:07:22.390 --> 00:07:30.070 Bruce Agid: and Sfmta the last week of November, and they were initiating a 53 00:07:30.870 --> 00:07:40.040 Bruce Agid: transportation accessibility study for the Mission Bay Elementary School. So I hope you're all. I'm sure you all are aware of that. 54 00:07:40.250 --> 00:07:56.839 Bruce Agid: And if you're not, you should be because that gets into some of things you're just talking about bike lanes and other accessibility measures, and so on. There was a lot of feedback given to them, and they have a very robust, a community engagement plan 55 00:07:56.890 --> 00:08:04.530 Bruce Agid: over the next 6 months, and they want to start in January of 2024. So you know, as 56 00:08:04.540 --> 00:08:11.160 Bruce Agid: you know, there start to be these community engagement plans. I would really recommend that somehow they're integrated. 57 00:08:11.170 --> 00:08:21.709 Bruce Agid: Because, you know, community groups get exhausted with meetings. And why could you all have done this all at the same time, because it's hard to 58 00:08:21.830 --> 00:08:45.780 Bruce Agid: you you get. I see you smile, Allison. So I made my point on that I just wanted to. I just I didn't know if you were aware of that. And it looks like they're gonna be very aggressive because, you know, the the Mission Bay Elementary School is targeted to open August 2025. So whatever they're gonna do, they gotta do quick. So yeah, just Fyi on that. And then the other thing you mentioned that pedestrian bridge 59 00:08:45.780 --> 00:08:55.909 Bruce Agid: across the Channel at at Fifth Street, and I'm sure you're gonna have a very robust engagement strategy with the folks on the house folks. 60 00:08:56.250 --> 00:08:57.849 Bruce Agid: I as always. 61 00:08:58.100 --> 00:09:19.200 Bruce Agid: Yeah, I'm I'm sure you need to, because one of our dear friends who's no longer with us. Had some comments about what that looked like. So I'm sure you're aware of those concerns, and ex access across history is critical and necessary. But of course the folks on the house boats have 62 00:09:19.210 --> 00:09:34.719 Allison Albericci: some some concerns. So I just wanted to make sure that get that on the table. Thank you. Yeah, Bruce, thanks. As always always appreciate your insights. The mission based school access plan. Is that 63 00:09:35.180 --> 00:09:36.150 Allison Albericci: wha wha 64 00:09:36.470 --> 00:09:43.400 Allison Albericci: the the name that we have for that is mission-based school access plan. Is that the same plan that you're talking about? 65 00:09:44.670 --> 00:10:07.650 Bruce Agid: Alison? You, you know your guess is good in mind. I can give you II I've got the I've got the contact information for the people, and I could just make sure that you have it. And you guys could get that squared away. I'm not sure if that's what it's called. It sounds right. Combo between Sf, Cta and Mta 66 00:10:07.870 --> 00:10:13.990 Allison Albericci: got it. Yeah, we think that's the same project. Perfect good to know. Go ahead, Tammy. 67 00:10:14.620 --> 00:10:34.430 Tammy Chan, UCSF: Yeah, I was just gonna pipe in and say that that is the same project cause they've actually reached out to Usf to speak to us about access plan being on the on the edge of our campus site and we also alerted them that the the school district was as part of their eir and and effort. They were supposed to be 68 00:10:35.020 --> 00:10:51.190 Tammy Chan, UCSF: circulating a circulation plan to to sort of support, you know, to understand, like what their circulation planning, and how how the drop off and pick up. And all of these elements are gonna work, so that we can kind of look at this plan along with the Cta plans 69 00:10:51.220 --> 00:11:01.190 Tammy Chan, UCSF: together, and I don't believe that's been provided from the school district. So that's something that I think Sfc Ta was gonna follow the school district on. 70 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:02.230 Allison Albericci: Yeah. 71 00:11:03.760 --> 00:11:04.600 Allison Albericci: Great 72 00:11:05.990 --> 00:11:07.140 Allison Albericci: thanks, Tammy. 73 00:11:09.260 --> 00:11:17.400 Allison Albericci: So another project that you all might have heard about is the one 1, 2, 80 express lanes bus project 74 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:38.139 Allison Albericci: also being undertaken by Cta. So our understanding is that that is to evaluate alternatives for Hov lanes from i. 2 80 King Street off-ramp to Fifth Street. There's already an existing space there, but it's not striped as a lane. 75 00:11:38.340 --> 00:11:45.020 Allison Albericci: so our understanding is to they. They are looking at adding that. 76 00:11:45.090 --> 00:12:02.359 Allison Albericci: And that effort has started and is in progress. 2 other big development projects that are on our radar include the 900 Seventh Street Amazon project 77 00:12:02.450 --> 00:12:28.049 Allison Albericci: on the site formerly owned by ricology. That is a construction of a 3 story parcel delivery service building with accessory office retail and some publicly accessible open space. I'll just let you guys know that the the sponsor has submitted applications, and those applications are under review. But the 78 00:12:28.140 --> 00:12:31.930 Allison Albericci: the plan Review letter's not been sent yet. 79 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:45.709 Allison Albericci: And then, as Bruce already mentioned, the 6 55 Fourth Street project by Tishman. That project is going to the planning commission for approval on Thursday. 80 00:12:45.750 --> 00:12:50.339 Allison Albericci: so that's 1,100 dwelling units 81 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:56.229 Allison Albericci: about 10,000 square feet of retail. Some 82 00:12:56.260 --> 00:13:01.760 Allison Albericci: There's also about a 9,000 square foot popos at the corner of Fourth 83 00:13:01.770 --> 00:13:03.190 Allison Albericci: and Townsend. 84 00:13:03.390 --> 00:13:09.289 Allison Albericci: and of course, some other accessory and back of house space. 85 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:20.679 Allison Albericci: So those are kind of the the large things that are on our radar. and if there's anything else that comes up that you think we should be tracking, please do let us know. 86 00:13:26.490 --> 00:13:27.470 Allison Albericci: Okay. 87 00:13:27.970 --> 00:13:35.369 Allison Albericci: And with that I'm going to hand it over to Dj. With Caltrain for an update on the preliminary business case. 88 00:13:37.880 --> 00:13:54.620 DJ Baxter: Thanks, Allison. Good evening, everybody. I'm Dj. Baxter project manager with capturing for the preliminary business case at the Forth and King Rale Yards. We have several other members of our team here tonight who's help? I may call on and answering questions as nevy Dolly Wall, is our government affairs 89 00:13:54.660 --> 00:14:02.180 DJ Baxter: liaison? And Genevieve Cadwallader is our partner in advancing this work with prolades? 90 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:16.889 DJ Baxter: what we wanna do tonight is give a little bit of an overview of the process and an update on where we are with that, and and also talk about how. As we're 91 00:14:17.690 --> 00:14:25.989 DJ Baxter: looking at this site, we are thinking about the operating requirements that are required that are necessary for Cal trained to continue operations here. 92 00:14:27.330 --> 00:14:29.090 DJ Baxter: So let's go to our next slide. 93 00:14:29.370 --> 00:14:41.079 DJ Baxter: This is an over a schedule overview, obviously of a number of projects. You know what we're pursuing here is what just realized my face got blurry, did it for you guys? 94 00:14:41.430 --> 00:14:43.289 DJ Baxter: Not sure what's happening with my camera 95 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:51.620 DJ Baxter: to fix that? I apologize. See if it comes back into focus there. 96 00:14:55.410 --> 00:14:58.619 DJ Baxter: I'm not sure what's going on with my camera. Is it okay for me to proceed? 97 00:14:59.680 --> 00:15:03.210 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: Yeah, we can hear you. We can hear you just fine. Dj. 98 00:15:03.550 --> 00:15:05.350 DJ Baxter: thanks. 99 00:15:05.630 --> 00:15:18.409 DJ Baxter: so th. This effort is a partnership between Caltrain, who obviously operates trains on the site, and Prologis, who owns the property. And we're looking at options 100 00:15:18.490 --> 00:15:35.590 DJ Baxter: to see what it would take to realize all the benefits that could come from a robust Tod on this site while also providing continued and potentially expanded rail service over time at this location. And so as you can imagine, those 101 00:15:35.610 --> 00:15:54.110 DJ Baxter: th, there's a lot of effort required in trying to coordinate those 2 needs. And so we're looking carefully at what? What it would take to make that possible. This slide gives us a sense of some of the other projects are in the works here. I just want to talk briefly about those. Probably by way of review for many of you. 102 00:15:54.410 --> 00:15:59.940 DJ Baxter: And then after that, I'll talk a little bit of how about how we're approaching the work 103 00:16:02.290 --> 00:16:06.359 DJ Baxter: at the Fourth and King site obviously is an evolving site. 104 00:16:06.530 --> 00:16:24.750 DJ Baxter: where we have a dynamic railroad operation now. And one of the projects that's underway at the moment isn't actually listed on the slide, but the electrification project is underway right now, and expect we expect, in the fall of next year to begin revenue service of electric trains. 105 00:16:24.760 --> 00:16:25.930 DJ Baxter: I think 106 00:16:25.940 --> 00:16:37.339 DJ Baxter: perhaps some of you had a chance to see the electric trains at one of our open houses this fall. There will be one more opportunity. I think it's San Mateo County. We don't have a date set for that yet. 107 00:16:37.390 --> 00:16:46.430 DJ Baxter: But we're excited to provide another opportunity for people to explore those trains. While we're finishing up the Electrification Electrification project. 108 00:16:46.830 --> 00:16:54.450 DJ Baxter: we've recently electrified 12 platform tracks and 109 00:16:54.560 --> 00:16:56.819 DJ Baxter: that work is proceeding nicely. 110 00:16:57.030 --> 00:17:13.249 DJ Baxter: The portal project is also known as the downtown Extension and this is a an effort to extend California and service from Forth and King all the way to the Salesforce Transit Center, and that would include the development of a new underground station at Fourth and Townson Street. 111 00:17:13.750 --> 00:17:24.979 DJ Baxter: This project obviously will impact parts of the Bale yard site. And I'll show a graphic in a few minutes. And those impacts happen both during construction and after implementation. 112 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:44.249 DJ Baxter: The next project we're showing here is the 4 KY project construction. That's another name for that is the enabling works for the downtown extension, and that's a pack, a couple of packages of materials that need to be conducted just to prepare for the construction of the downtown extension. 113 00:17:44.320 --> 00:17:55.620 DJ Baxter: Some of those activities are at the seventh, and towns and Corner and others are focused on making sure the rail infrastructure is put in place to to ensure that we can keep the trains running throughout the construction of the Dtx project 114 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:18.100 DJ Baxter: course. The rail yard cod is what we're here to talk about tonight. Here. The thing I wanted to point out is that even after we conclude the preliminary business case which we hope to do in the middle of next year, there is a long predevelopment process ahead of us which would involve obviously a very active engagement between the city planning department and 115 00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:22.009 DJ Baxter: and for lodges as the property owner and caltrain as well. 116 00:18:22.570 --> 00:18:34.490 DJ Baxter: Link 21, of course, is an effort to consider how we could carry rail service from Salesforce Transit City Transit Center to the East Bay. 117 00:18:34.500 --> 00:18:57.200 DJ Baxter: And the the big thing I wanna note really on this slide is that these all all these projects have very long timelines, so we're extremely excited about the benefits that can come from all of them. But it's really important to remember that they? They are they're many, many years away from completion, and in in some cases we still have many years of planning to do to bring these to fruition. 118 00:18:58.220 --> 00:19:05.220 DJ Baxter: So next, I just want to talk a little bit about how we're thinking about the rail yard site when we are undertaking the effort to think about. 119 00:19:05.710 --> 00:19:21.229 DJ Baxter: How can we, you know, continue and enhance rail operations for caltrain at this site, while also thinking about what would be possible in terms of a robust transit, oriented development here at Forth and King. 120 00:19:21.620 --> 00:19:46.479 DJ Baxter: And to do that, we really have to start with the core needs for operating the railroad. And so we've tried to synthesize these down to a couple of key categories on this slide. Just as a reminder. I mean, if you ride the train. You probably know all these sort of inherently. But when we're doing planning, of course, we have to be thinking about them very explicitly. And so we've categorized them into passenger facilities. 121 00:19:46.480 --> 00:20:09.680 DJ Baxter: all of the things that the passenger interacts with in order to become a trained passenger. And of course, those facilities themselves, as well as a number of other factors, have a big impact on the experience of our passengers, and our passengers are, are, you know, our top priority to us. So this experience and all the things that it entails are are top of mind. As we go through this planning process. 122 00:20:10.090 --> 00:20:38.579 DJ Baxter: We also on that sort of the back of house side. We need space to store trains. We need space to service those trains, to turn them around and head them in the opposite direction and space to start them up in the morning. There are all kinds of things, as we probably all know, that happen behind the scenes and during the night to get those trains ready for service, and those all consume space at the site. And so, as we're thinking about the planning of this site from a spatial spatial perspective, we have to make sure that all of those functions can be served. 123 00:20:38.800 --> 00:20:53.660 DJ Baxter: and of course there are people who conduct all those functions. Those are our crew and staff, and they need facilities, equipment, office space, all of those things in order to be successful at keeping the trains running day-to-day. 124 00:20:54.780 --> 00:21:09.749 DJ Baxter: If we go to the next slide, we've got a couple of slides here to start to think about the how these layout geographically on the site. I hope that these look familiar. Here. We've just outlined the core rail infrastructure that is at fourth and King today. 125 00:21:10.150 --> 00:21:17.049 DJ Baxter: But on the next slide we've just started to add, really the first layer of labels of functions. And and we do have 126 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:36.030 DJ Baxter: a lot more things than we can possibly show on this slide. But just to give you a sense of all the different things that have to fit on this site from a function perspective. The headhouse, of course, is our passenger. Arrival and departure point interaction with the bus stops. We'll talk about that from a multimodal perspective. In a second. 127 00:21:36.030 --> 00:21:51.620 DJ Baxter: The bike station, also a key part of our multimodal function here. And then there are a lot of behind the scenes functions that have to happen here in terms of communications and equipment rooms offices and equipment for the staff who operate the trains. 128 00:21:51.800 --> 00:22:06.610 DJ Baxter: and so a few of those are laid out on the site here and just wanted to use this slide as a way to point out, there's there's a lot happening at Fourth and king today. And as we look at what the site might look like in the future, we have to be very cognizant of all, of of retaining or enhancing all of those functions. 129 00:22:10.290 --> 00:22:22.440 DJ Baxter: Another key component of this analysis is understanding. You know, the level of service that we plan to provide. And so this is rooted in Calcium's adopted service vision which has been adopted by the board. 130 00:22:22.520 --> 00:22:26.689 DJ Baxter: So today's service level is for caltrain trains an hour 131 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:51.090 DJ Baxter: that but the adopted service level. The adopted service vision calls for us, expanding that to 8 Cal. Train trains an hour or doubling that service level eventually, and adding into the next 4 high speed rail trains an hour, and beyond that, even with additional investments. The Board has asked us to keep in mind the possibility of even further expanded caltrain service out to an additional 4 trains an hour. 132 00:22:51.200 --> 00:23:04.810 DJ Baxter: And this also has to be a key component of our analysis, because operating different levels of service requires different levels of infrastructure and equipment, and those things all have a have to have a place to sit on the site and to operate smoothly 133 00:23:06.540 --> 00:23:25.379 DJ Baxter: on the next slide. We wanted to hit some of Caltrain's core sort of guiding priorities as we look through. As we approach this work again in partnership with Prologis. Again I mentioned the adopted service vision. This is really an important guidepost for us. And here I wanted to mention, too, that 134 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:47.220 DJ Baxter: even though we're looking at the Fourth and King Rail Yard, and it's defined geography. You have to remember that the Service vision and all the things. Caltrain does have system, wide implications. We have relationships with and commitments to a whole array of jurisdictions up and down the caltrain corridor and we have to make sure that as we plan this site 135 00:23:47.220 --> 00:24:01.350 DJ Baxter: that we understand clearly any ripple effects that might happen throughout the system throughout the calfine operating system. So honoring the adopted service vision, and all of that entails is is really at the top of our list. As we look at this site. 136 00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:17.350 DJ Baxter: we're also committed to maximizing e economic development opportunity and of course, that makes that makes our pro partnership with prologis even more important. As we're looking at how that could be realized. 137 00:24:18.450 --> 00:24:34.019 DJ Baxter: We're supporting the advanced calculations committed to supporting advancement of the existing and planned projects in the site. Earlier. I mentioned the electrification project that's underway today, the downtown extension and California high speed rail that are all working their way. 138 00:24:34.320 --> 00:24:52.250 DJ Baxter: And the the next one I wanted to talk about from a multimodal standpoint, and that is the station point of arrival at Fourth Street. Caltrain really functions as part of an ecosystem of mobility modes, and the 4 and Fourth Street is the place where is one of many places, of course. 139 00:24:52.250 --> 00:25:10.120 DJ Baxter: where all those modes come together seamlessly. And so, as we plan the site, we have to make sure that we're maintaining that focus so that all of the couch train passengers who are using couching system continue to have very fluid and seamless access to all the other modes of transportation that are available at this location. 140 00:25:12.120 --> 00:25:32.590 DJ Baxter: We need to make sure that the infrastructure we plan continues to support Caltrans current and future rail operations and maintenance needs. I think I touched on this a little bit previously. And again, I wanna under underscore this because it is so important that our customers experience has to be exceptional, and we will keep that in the forefront of our work as well 141 00:25:34.050 --> 00:25:54.740 DJ Baxter: on the next slide. I just wanted to be able to outline. You know, there, there are a lot of competing needs for this site as we look at all of the different things that that are being planned here the site is heavily utilized today, and throughout any kind of a phase development plan, Calcane will need to be able to maintain its ability to provide service. 142 00:25:55.270 --> 00:26:04.470 DJ Baxter: and if that phasing happens over a long period of time, we need to be able to provide increased levels of service as our as our 143 00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:07.639 DJ Baxter: plans and ridership warrant. 144 00:26:08.770 --> 00:26:34.840 DJ Baxter: So the technical work that we're undertaking is is trying to keep track of all of the competing needs for the site. And those are what we're trying to represent here, including the Fourth and Townsen station, as I mentioned earlier, underneath Townsend Street, potential lay down area at Seventh and Townsen, which is a space that the Tjpa would use for potentially staging construction activities. 145 00:26:35.000 --> 00:27:00.569 DJ Baxter: The prologis parcel is the long rectangle that you see on the site and the Dtx. Tracks in their alignment are indicated here in green, and the the Dtx tunnel is indicated in yellow. And of course the reason that Calvin is there today is that Calvin holds and a rail operating easement transportation operating easement on this site and and that enables us to operate the service that we do today. 146 00:27:02.810 --> 00:27:12.550 DJ Baxter: The next slide is a zoomed-out view of some of those projects. Just so you get a sense of where we sit in relation to the downtown extension alignment. 147 00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:34.719 DJ Baxter: and I'll close with the last slide, just noting that through all of this effort again, we're working closely with prologis to make sure that as we consider all the things that are important to couching from an operating perspective. We're also looking to try to combine those with all of the things that would make a commercial successful transit oriented development viable on this site. 148 00:27:34.770 --> 00:27:54.940 DJ Baxter: And so our challenge going forward is to find a way to optimize both of those interests, and hope that we can identify a path to retaining and enhancing caltrain service at the site, while also in enabling a successful transit rate to development here. 149 00:28:00.330 --> 00:28:03.250 DJ Baxter: Thank you. Dj, thanks. Dj. 150 00:28:03.580 --> 00:28:15.890 Allison Albericci: we'll open it up for questions and discussion, and I just want to note bruce is written in the chat. Don't forget safety of all the pedestrians in the area. And it's well considered. Thank you, Bruce, appreciate it 151 00:28:16.300 --> 00:28:17.260 DJ Baxter: absolutely. 152 00:28:21.850 --> 00:28:29.510 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): We have a few minutes for clarifying questions on this material. So if any one has any questions or comments. 153 00:28:30.520 --> 00:28:34.210 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): please feel welcome to raise raise your hand. 154 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:39.310 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Yeah, II see a hand up. 155 00:28:42.130 --> 00:28:47.419 Hi! There! I mean someone started speaking. They could go before I can't before I do. 156 00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:50.199 Brent Van Brocklin: That's that's more than fun. 157 00:28:51.780 --> 00:28:53.740 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Was anyone else speaking? 158 00:28:53.980 --> 00:29:07.190 Roman Adler: Yeah. Sorry I had a question. I just I'm a little new to the scope of this project. I was just curious. Is the general intent that the rail yards move underground and and then above ground is is the commercial development site the prologis has. 159 00:29:08.030 --> 00:29:19.589 DJ Baxter: We're we're looking at a variety of options. The Dtx project in its current plan, would move most of calcane service underground into the Forth and Townsend 160 00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:25.239 DJ Baxter: Station, which is under Town Street and into the tunnel that connects to this salesforce transit center. 161 00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:29.300 Roman Adler: Gotcha. Okay, thank you. 162 00:29:30.320 --> 00:29:50.750 Brent Van Brocklin: Okay, Brent, if you wanna go ahead. Yeah, absolutely. Hi, there, thank you so much for your time. I am an avid transit fan, and I've been following this project. I'm working on this project for my capstone. And so I was wondering. I guess. Kind of like a decision. Wise. There is a lot of storage at Fourth and King right now. 163 00:29:50.750 --> 00:30:10.930 Brent Van Brocklin: But I know with plans for California high speed rail. They're working on a maintenance facility in Brisbane. Is there any possibility of like offloading some of that existing storage area from Caltrain to the new of, I mean, eventual site of maintenance for California, high speed rail. And like, what would that look like? Is that a possibility? Or 164 00:30:11.370 --> 00:30:15.450 Brent Van Brocklin: II, yeah, that was a lot of questions at once. Sorry. 165 00:30:17.530 --> 00:30:20.039 DJ Baxter: I'd say we no go ahead. Levi. 166 00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:30.799 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: Yeah. So we're right now. We're currently working on just through this technical analysis, really understanding what those storage needs are at this point. And so 167 00:30:30.900 --> 00:30:43.379 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: I think it's too early for us to talk about storage, really leaving the site. Because we're looking at. We're just looking at a variety of different options at this moment. And then, I think, in terms of 168 00:30:43.630 --> 00:30:52.750 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: Brisbane. We're not involved with the that high speed rail facility. And so at this point in time, that's not something that we're looking at. 169 00:30:53.340 --> 00:30:57.170 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: But I think it's a great question. Thanks so much. Brent. Dj, did you wanna add anything? 170 00:30:57.270 --> 00:30:58.490 DJ Baxter: No, thanks. 171 00:30:59.170 --> 00:31:00.729 Brent Van Brocklin: Okay, perfect. Thank you. 172 00:31:04.450 --> 00:31:07.339 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Anyone else with questions, for DJ. 173 00:31:10.530 --> 00:31:17.039 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): I see no hands up. So I'm gonna suggest that we move on to the next item on the agenda. 174 00:31:17.570 --> 00:31:19.219 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Google, would you 175 00:31:21.120 --> 00:31:22.900 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: please? Yes. 176 00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:29.320 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: thanks, thanks, Erica. And good evening, everyone. Great to be here again. 177 00:31:29.760 --> 00:31:31.860 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: as you know, we 178 00:31:32.130 --> 00:31:45.340 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: for those of you who were in the meeting last time we talked about early mapping exercise on the surrounding areas for the site and the within our study area. And we also planned 179 00:31:45.410 --> 00:32:09.459 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and site tour that we completed in earlier, I think maybe last month from the month before. So where we are right now, basically, we are kind of like, we took information from those exercises and from the site basic to complete and our mapping exercise, input also from the different and people involved. 180 00:32:09.740 --> 00:32:15.930 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: That gave us their comment. And we started taking all that into 181 00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:25.639 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: start identifying preliminary areas for improvement and potential solutions within the site based on these mapping and observations. 182 00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:39.310 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Next slide, please. So we did do the site tour where we walked around and the different neighborhoods throughout the study area. Next slide, please. 183 00:32:39.600 --> 00:33:05.680 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: And we were able to sort of like, bring back a and get back to our mapping and sort of like fix a little bit things that were confirmed on site, and by comments from different people, we put some of those here and to lead us to the conclusions of a potential areas. Very, very preliminary that we start thinking of what, in 184 00:33:06.270 --> 00:33:14.670 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: which or where could be those we could do those interventions that could help improve the site 185 00:33:14.780 --> 00:33:37.479 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: in terms of the open space network. We know that. There's a lot of open spaces surrounding the side, but the access to it is a little bit limited, and we could definitely work on enhancing those connectivity, and ideally provide a future open spaces to where we don't see as much as we would like to see. 186 00:33:37.620 --> 00:33:41.040 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: And next slide. please. 187 00:33:41.750 --> 00:34:06.080 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Same thing about active ground floor. Obviously we are talking about a activity concentrated especially along the Third and Fourth street corridors and near the culture and station currently, but we also see a few pockets of other activities surrounding our site that could benefit from strengthening the connection to this. A pockets through the different neighborhoods 188 00:34:07.340 --> 00:34:08.670 next slide, please. 189 00:34:10.469 --> 00:34:16.950 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: One very important part of the conversation has been pedestrian network, and has to do with safety. 190 00:34:16.969 --> 00:34:38.979 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: has to do also with pleasant a and clear connections that link the different neighborhoods and the different pockets within neighborhoods to one another. We walked like, I said. They decide on the surroundings, and we found a number of possibilities of potential in future 191 00:34:39.320 --> 00:35:02.099 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: works that could enhance that experience and really enhance the linkage between neighborhoods. The linkage to existing and planned open spaces, providing better and clearer path through the site. So we started basically by updating identifying those areas where we 192 00:35:02.330 --> 00:35:16.710 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: find poor position, experience, and we also find a unsafe intersections for position movement. So, for instance, in this diagram, say little circles that are there in this orange red color in 193 00:35:16.910 --> 00:35:24.289 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: call out for those dangerous intersections where it has been actually in even accidents 194 00:35:24.390 --> 00:35:26.099 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: not too long ago. 195 00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:48.399 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and where position, safety is really really compromised, and, on the other hand, the little yellowish circles really provide or try to highlight areas where it is very unclear. The position connection is somewhat there, but it's not clear enough to facilitate that movement through the site. 196 00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.590 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Next slide, please. 197 00:35:51.810 --> 00:35:58.080 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: of course, deals. This also affects the road network, and we have again. 198 00:35:58.110 --> 00:36:14.280 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: dangerous intersections where cars and pedestrians collide all the time, and those probably need to be looked at. We have a bunch of roads that are like cut because of the existence of current infrastructure and the rail lines, and that 199 00:36:14.290 --> 00:36:24.470 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: provides again, kind of like a more a unclear or confusing a road network that could be somewhat improved 200 00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:26.650 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: next slide. 201 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:37.189 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: We're also looking at. The sea level rise inundation map as we have in this slide, and mostly to understand a little bit 202 00:36:37.190 --> 00:37:01.449 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: a what the current condition is. We see that the low areas concentrate in Mission Bay and in the current a regular side and Thomson Street. But we also understand that a comprehensive sea level rise solution is something that has to be looked at as a larger scale, together with the smaller scale. But at least we start to sort of like, understand where we are. And what could be a micro solutions that would 203 00:37:01.450 --> 00:37:06.790 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: start implementing in our site that help enhance 204 00:37:06.890 --> 00:37:12.500 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: more a wider response to celebration. Climate resilience 205 00:37:13.140 --> 00:37:14.530 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: next slide, please. 206 00:37:15.210 --> 00:37:34.769 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: So with this mapping, we started looking a little bit at our site. And what do we have there? So right now? We see that a lot of the constraints are mostly related to major infrastructure. We do have the highway flyovers and the off ramps coming into our study area 207 00:37:34.770 --> 00:37:54.029 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and the existing rail lines that need to be there for quite some time, especially during the phase, one of the a religious project. So these are real and constraints in in terms of when we start looking at a long-term comprehensive a solution for the study area 208 00:37:54.520 --> 00:37:56.270 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and next slide, please. 209 00:37:57.310 --> 00:38:20.780 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: So in in terms of existing conditions, we're looking at a more consolidated urban corridors along like we said Third and Fourth Street, there's a growing open space system that is still somewhat a fragmented and disconnected. But there are plans to complete this open space, and we want, and we want to make sure that it is completed in a way that is in 210 00:38:21.950 --> 00:38:29.000 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: is consolidated and is connected, interconnected to to one another, and we have, of course, 211 00:38:29.070 --> 00:38:43.680 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: developments that are coming up. Some of them are almost finished, some other ones, like the mission-based school under construction on 1,450 Owen Street are already taking place and completing the picture within a or close to our study area. 212 00:38:44.610 --> 00:38:53.829 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Next slide. We also, like I mentioned, we have a planned activities meaning key sites in Central Soma 213 00:38:53.840 --> 00:39:16.319 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: for future, a development and decide that. I guess someone was pointed at there in with a new housing. Yes, development coming up very soon, like Alison mentioned. If that's moving forward first, we have other sites where there's a potential for 214 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:26.859 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: densifying a development, especially along a central summer, as I said, and that also comes together with their own sort of like scale of a 215 00:39:27.120 --> 00:39:38.120 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: open space and position mobility. Again, also, we have the extension of the park along a mission creek and some other 216 00:39:38.150 --> 00:39:46.529 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: elements that complete the picture in terms of future, a open space and development possibilities 217 00:39:47.390 --> 00:39:59.810 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: next slide, please. So now, looking at that bigger picture and trying to put all these layers. Together, we start asking ourselves and asking the the working group 218 00:39:59.890 --> 00:40:05.349 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and asking the team members and those who went to the site, what could be those 219 00:40:05.510 --> 00:40:16.719 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: key intersections or basically key interventions. Sorry that we could take on to really create sort of like a maximum effect. 220 00:40:16.810 --> 00:40:23.670 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: We have a potential, a key, cross connections that would help us 221 00:40:23.730 --> 00:40:48.590 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: tie and stitch together Central Soma to Mission Bay, and to show show place, square, and really create a more interconnected and vibrant community through our study area. So some of these are identified here. And of course, we're not talking about yet about our solution. This could take different shape, and this would also take 222 00:40:48.770 --> 00:40:52.720 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: different timelines to really be possible 223 00:40:53.670 --> 00:40:54.720 implement. 224 00:40:54.750 --> 00:41:00.130 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: But if we look into them a little bit more in detail, so the number one here in the next slide. 225 00:41:01.040 --> 00:41:20.969 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: It's really taking advantage of the momentum that the future connection. And Bruce was talking about this earlier on the future connection of the pedestrian bridge over Mission Creek, and we do understand that whatever that may look like is something that is gonna have to be very, very carefully 226 00:41:21.010 --> 00:41:33.659 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: studied and consulted, and it has to be a joint effort with the community. But it will really provide a lot of benefit in connecting these communities. Now 227 00:41:33.680 --> 00:41:59.520 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: that position bridge that connects to the through the creek would also be even stronger if we see this connection expanding even longer through the regular sites and into the central Soma. So we can really look at access that crosses the site and connect different neighborhoods. Now this will take time, and at least during the what we understand from 228 00:41:59.670 --> 00:42:10.610 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: the introduction that was just given to us, at least during the early phases of the regular projects. This will probably not be 229 00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:15.439 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: possible, because a lot of the train operation needs to remain at grade. 230 00:42:15.490 --> 00:42:20.200 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: But we're looking into future possibilities together with that 231 00:42:20.350 --> 00:42:21.860 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and the next slide. 232 00:42:22.120 --> 00:42:42.359 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: There is also a potential of creating an elevated connection between Central Soma and Mission Bay alone. 6, 3 in this case may there may be a solution where we take advantage of the existing breach of the off ramp, and we could create some sort of connection attached to that to really 233 00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:45.519 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: provide this linkage that could 234 00:42:45.540 --> 00:42:53.529 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: be very needed in terms of connecting again these 2 different neighborhoods, and finally 235 00:42:54.390 --> 00:42:59.859 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: tours the south of the side and number 3. There's the potential extension of 236 00:42:59.900 --> 00:43:05.139 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: very straight and a public open space alone and over the future they 237 00:43:05.340 --> 00:43:07.119 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: the rail lines. If 238 00:43:07.220 --> 00:43:22.939 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: these are gonna be depending, of course, of the tunneling and the the technical implementation of this area. But it would be great way to also connect both the 239 00:43:23.080 --> 00:43:44.300 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: mission quick and mission pay back to Showplace Square and next slide, please. At the same time. Besides, this, cross connections were thinking, and I did I, and recognizing that there's like this long axis that are very different and very important throughout our study. Area. Towns and King and Berry Street are very, very different in character. 240 00:43:44.380 --> 00:43:59.289 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: and we want to make sure that that character remains, and that that character is a enhanced through whichever intervention we wanna do, especially Townsend Street, may benefit a lot through 241 00:43:59.640 --> 00:44:01.160 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: a future 242 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:11.360 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: density opportunities and along the the site and also providing midblock connections that can facilitate again position, movement 243 00:44:12.260 --> 00:44:13.510 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: next slide. 244 00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:32.689 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: There's also, like a we were mentioning before an idea of that, whatever we do here and again, this is very early thinking about that. Whatever we do here, we can be thinking of the as a water sensitive public. We on. We can provide 245 00:44:32.910 --> 00:44:57.769 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: streetscape and parks and open spaces that really help us deal with in water management and and rotation ponds. And we'll provide purpose paving that I just add up to a larger scale a solution towards climate resilience. And there's different layers that we're talking, that the city is looking into. 246 00:44:57.900 --> 00:45:12.690 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: for instance, how to deal with a sea level rise. But we are saying that at the neighborhood level, the inner layer that has to do with streetscape, ring gardens, and the treatment even of the the Mission Creek Canal could help 247 00:45:13.020 --> 00:45:14.650 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: provide a solution 248 00:45:15.140 --> 00:45:16.470 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: next slide. 249 00:45:17.150 --> 00:45:27.270 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: These can take different shapes and forms. And this is just some examples that you can refer to when we talk about what it is rain card and our primable paving. 250 00:45:27.610 --> 00:45:30.349 Incorporated in streetscape design. 251 00:45:31.570 --> 00:45:40.119 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: so, yeah, in general, this is this where we are right now. Again, this is a 252 00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:49.829 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: preliminary study that has resulted from our conversations with the team. Our, this is to the side, and it's open to 253 00:45:49.930 --> 00:45:58.720 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: more of your comments to more of your ideas of what could be the connections you would like to see here 254 00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:10.670 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: a, or whether we're missing something we're overlooking something, or willing to pay attention into certain elements that you by being from the area, will really like us to 255 00:46:10.810 --> 00:46:12.199 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: pay attention to 256 00:46:12.630 --> 00:46:13.590 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Erica. 257 00:46:13.860 --> 00:46:26.660 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you. Google. We're gonna open it up to discussion. As as you explain, this is still an explorative item. So ideas, questions thoughts are are welcome from the from the group 258 00:46:30.090 --> 00:46:39.460 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): we? I did see a couple of things in the in the chat. I'll come back to the chat in a minute. Dylan, I see your hand up. Please go ahead. 259 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:47.370 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): Yeah, thanks. And yeah, I'm I'm also kind of new to this conversation. So thanks for the overview 260 00:46:47.980 --> 00:47:06.130 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): and thanks for really, looking into pedestrian safety as well, I know that's something that's so important. Especially in this project area. I saw that one of the circled areas. One of the circled intersections was Forth and King, where, of course, there was that tragic crash earlier this year. 261 00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:16.850 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): And in just in in my interactions with with residents nearby, and folks a. A a couple of people mentioned that they wanted to see 262 00:47:17.330 --> 00:47:24.919 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): basically, that that block of Fourth street closed to private cars and and just made into a transit plaza. 263 00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:27.980 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): I know that's something that 264 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:39.889 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): probably requires a lot of outreach and design, but II noticed that there was also a potential improvement there for Transit Plaza. I could see it, as you know, a way of cutting down on. 265 00:47:39.930 --> 00:47:46.810 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): you know, making the intersection a lot safer. I know transit riders often, especially if it's the first time there have a hard time like understanding exactly 266 00:47:46.940 --> 00:47:56.989 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): where they should be waiting for their their streetcars, and and how to be connecting up to to Cal Train having to go across that big intersection can be pretty daunting. So 267 00:47:57.160 --> 00:47:58.249 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): I think 268 00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:04.780 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): II don't know. I like the idea. I wanted to see what you all were thinking when you mentioned Transit Plaza there and 269 00:48:05.150 --> 00:48:07.929 Dylan Fabris (SF Transit Riders): if that's something that you all could be considering. 270 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:27.880 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: who? Who? Who? Who wants to answer that? Nothing. This is this is great common Dylan, and I think is, it would require such coordination between all the different parties in this meeting that, I think, is something that 271 00:48:28.300 --> 00:48:35.070 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: everyone is ideally looking in the same direction, having sort of like the same objectives. How that will shape 272 00:48:35.650 --> 00:48:51.529 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: it's probably too early, as Navy mentioned, also for the for the other question. But it's something that we need to to discuss. And again, I open to other ones if they have any specific comments regarding the Transit plaza in in forcing. 273 00:48:51.580 --> 00:49:08.359 Allison Albericci: Yeah? So I'll just to your question, Dylan. Currently, there are no plans to close a block of Fourth Street. However, pedestrian safety is a major priority of this project, and as is 274 00:49:08.420 --> 00:49:18.970 Allison Albericci: writer experience as are the levels of service for the pedestrians and the transit. So 275 00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:20.560 Allison Albericci: Yes. 276 00:49:20.750 --> 00:49:38.769 Allison Albericci: transit plaza is on the table. What? Exactly? It ends up looking like and and how how much of the right of way can be co-opted or or taken over that's part of the work that we're doing here. 277 00:49:41.650 --> 00:49:48.359 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you, Dylan. I don't see any other hands up, but I noticed Bruce, you had a comment in the chat 278 00:49:48.910 --> 00:49:54.449 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): about an issue, and I'm I just want to clarify if that relates to sea level rise. 279 00:49:56.580 --> 00:50:03.939 Bruce Agid: So the issue I brought up is the issue that Tammy articulated in the chat. 280 00:50:04.060 --> 00:50:08.430 Bruce Agid: and I gave it a plus one. And I remember, there was significant 281 00:50:08.490 --> 00:50:23.289 Bruce Agid: concerns around. I mean all the wonderful things of increased transit service which we really embrace and love. between electrification of caltrain and high speed rail. 282 00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:28.470 Bruce Agid: If you don't deal with the The 283 00:50:28.510 --> 00:50:38.550 Bruce Agid: the Pax, the Pennsylvania Avenue extension. it will be it could potentially be catastrophic for folks who live in Mission Bay. 284 00:50:38.560 --> 00:50:46.990 Bruce Agid: because where you increase transit service and you have it above ground. It cuts off 2 arteries 285 00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:59.020 Bruce Agid: into Mission Bay, and that's Mission Bay Boulevard, north and South and Sixteenth Street, and I remember in the EIR. Tammy. Yeah, I can't remember exactly what it was, but 286 00:50:59.060 --> 00:51:03.030 Bruce Agid: it was like out of every hour 287 00:51:03.170 --> 00:51:08.540 Bruce Agid: there the gates would be down like 40% of the time. 288 00:51:08.610 --> 00:51:36.170 Bruce Agid: because there'd be such great transit service. You couldn't get to the hospital, and you couldn't get into Division Day if you happen to be on a bus at Sixteenth Street, or if you had to be in a car, cause you had a doctor's appointment or something like that. So that's what my comment was targeted to. And Tammy, I can't remember which er it was, but that was an area of consternation that we all were kind of 289 00:51:36.270 --> 00:51:38.100 Bruce Agid: in. 290 00:51:38.140 --> 00:51:40.479 Bruce Agid: We were all together on that concern 291 00:51:40.500 --> 00:51:46.120 Bruce Agid: around. You know the electrification and high speed rail. So that's clarification. 292 00:51:46.210 --> 00:51:48.360 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you, Brustami, please go ahead. 293 00:51:48.680 --> 00:52:01.680 Tammy Chan, UCSF: Yeah. Just you know, back to what Bruce is mentioning. I mean, I think it was with the with the calendar, Neir, as well as the maybe the Dtx. I think they have supplemental at some point that came through 294 00:52:01.810 --> 00:52:11.100 Tammy Chan, UCSF: and the city and Tjpa. We're we're in agreement that you know. This does need to go underground. You know, and 295 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.290 Tammy Chan, UCSF: and 296 00:52:12.850 --> 00:52:25.869 Tammy Chan, UCSF: and our specific concern, I mean, aside from pedestrian safety is obviously the transport of our patients, like, you know, with the increase of additional traffic to Mission Bay already. You know we have seen an increase in 297 00:52:26.310 --> 00:52:50.049 Tammy Chan, UCSF: minutes which you know doesn't seem like a lot, but when you're transporting, you know, children and folks to an emergency hospital. The the. Those are very critical minutes, and I think one of the comments we are. The response we receive was like, well, emergency vehicles being ambulance have right away. Well, not when it comes to train crossings. So I mean, it's it's just, you know. It's it as much as 298 00:52:50.330 --> 00:53:04.639 Tammy Chan, UCSF: as you know, we. We support the idea of additional transit and additional all these additional movements into Mission Bay. I think we need to consider like what's already on the ground there, and the increase of of a lot of the 299 00:53:04.830 --> 00:53:06.219 Tammy Chan, UCSF: the 300 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:30.120 Tammy Chan, UCSF: you know, with Covid, you know, we've had less traffic in Mission Bay. But of course, there, it's also change how people, you know are getting around. So so you know, unless we can get more people in better trans that we are getting more cars in a row, which you know additional delays. You know we see those delays happening to our shuttles. They get stuck at the Sixteenth Street crossing all the time. It! And there's nothing we can 301 00:53:30.230 --> 00:53:34.779 Tammy Chan, UCSF: do if you know it's coming down every you know several minutes. So 302 00:53:37.020 --> 00:53:50.369 Tammy Chan, UCSF: thank you, Tammy. So yeah, so we just wanna make sure that that that discussion with, you know, Dtx and Tgpa continues, and that the city takes that undergrounding a priority between Pennsylvania and the rail yard. 303 00:53:53.870 --> 00:53:55.090 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thanks, Tammy. 304 00:53:56.370 --> 00:54:00.009 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Anyone else has has any comments. I see 305 00:54:00.430 --> 00:54:04.060 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): another couple of questions in here. 306 00:54:05.970 --> 00:54:11.519 Allison Albericci: So I see a question from Chris about what's the plan for the caltrain? Muni station? 307 00:54:16.020 --> 00:54:27.620 Allison Albericci: Chris, can you clarify? Is that Are you speaking about the the stop that's on street for Muni or something else. 308 00:54:27.830 --> 00:54:36.289 Chris Paik: Yeah, the station that's located adjacent to to Caltrain Station. I was just wondering if that's also gonna be relocated. 309 00:54:39.220 --> 00:54:45.769 Allison Albericci: There are no plans to relocate that station at this time. But that is 310 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.879 Allison Albericci: part of the purview of this study. 311 00:54:48.380 --> 00:54:51.239 Allison Albericci: And can you can you? 312 00:54:52.120 --> 00:54:54.090 Allison Albericci: is, do you have a 313 00:54:54.130 --> 00:55:04.710 Chris Paik: a concern or a preference or a no, no, we're just talking about thoroughfares. And you know, if that station remains where it is that would limit some of the options that we have. 314 00:55:05.690 --> 00:55:06.610 Allison Albericci: Yep 315 00:55:08.540 --> 00:55:11.229 Allison Albericci: noted. Thanks, Chris. 316 00:55:12.810 --> 00:55:15.900 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): there's a comment from Cruoty as well. 317 00:55:16.610 --> 00:55:23.909 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): I'm not sure if you'd like to add to that, I think it relates to our conversation around packs. Go ahead. 318 00:55:25.540 --> 00:55:40.739 Krute Singa: Yeah, I just I I'm this might be just in the weeks. But you know, mentally, or like, maybe more psychologically, it just feels like when you're in that neighborhood. It just feels disconnected from other neighborhoods. So any kind of visuals like way finding signs 319 00:55:41.090 --> 00:55:52.959 Krute Singa: just showing that the you know the distance to this neighborhood or landmark. Is not that far? I think, would be one way to also kind of help the pedestrian realm, and not that. 320 00:55:54.100 --> 00:55:54.860 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Yeah. 321 00:55:58.590 --> 00:55:59.569 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): thank you. 322 00:56:00.340 --> 00:56:10.240 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Anyone else. We'll go. I think we'll we'll be distributing this presentation and and you'll be receiving comments additional comments right from the diagrams. 323 00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:11.950 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Yes, sure. 324 00:56:15.190 --> 00:56:24.059 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: Yeah. I just wanted to add really quickly, I know that there was questions and concern regarding the Pennsylvania Avenue, and I 325 00:56:24.500 --> 00:56:25.790 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: I think. 326 00:56:26.290 --> 00:56:39.040 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: I think that those are questions that in terms of like just ongoing, planning efforts would be best directed to Sfcta, and I know, Erica. Request. Erica said, that she's making notes on 327 00:56:39.410 --> 00:56:46.520 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: just a tracker with Sf. Planning, so I think it's a good question for follow up. But I just wanted to make sure Dtx is looking at 328 00:56:46.820 --> 00:57:00.830 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: the extension and very much so in in the phase of the tunnel to Stc. And then the rail yards work is observing. You know that again, the analytical framework between what's feasible in terms of 329 00:57:00.900 --> 00:57:26.820 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: commercial development and having an active, really art site. And then Pax is really the set that the agency lead is Sfc, ta, so I just wanted to make sure that folks understood. We're definitely we can definitely communicate these concerns. But that is a, you know city led project. And so it's important to make sure that folks are also sharing with with the with the ta as well. 330 00:57:29.750 --> 00:57:32.150 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you. Navi Bruce, please go ahead. 331 00:57:33.290 --> 00:58:02.949 Bruce Agid: Yeah. Navy. Thank you for those. That those comments, and you know, message loud and clear. The only thing you you need to be cognizant of, and we all do is that all these projects are moving forward, all at the same time creating similar types of issues and concerns, and anything that appears to be addressing one issue could be exacerbating another issue. And so the reason why you have folks like myself and Tammy and others bringing it up is that 332 00:58:02.950 --> 00:58:16.110 Bruce Agid: you know it is what it is. It's on the table. People know what the issue is but this team, when we see plans, we need to know the understanding of, does it make it even worse? 333 00:58:16.700 --> 00:58:34.879 Bruce Agid: Because if anything we do in this. Anything we talk about here makes those issues worse. Then that needs to be on the table, right? And we're seeing it and feeling it right now. With the Mission Bay Elementary School. We just had this wonderful conversation with Sf. Cta. 334 00:58:34.980 --> 00:58:52.709 Bruce Agid: And the congestion that's already in the area without a school, and as much as we would like public transit and bikes and other alternatives to autos. When you get parents in a room they talk about. Yeah, that's all great. 335 00:58:52.720 --> 00:58:56.230 Bruce Agid: But I've got to come with my car and drop my kid off and pick my kid up. 336 00:58:56.370 --> 00:59:19.050 Bruce Agid: and we all know what it looks like today with pedestrian safety, and so on, and so on and so on. So we just wanna make sure that we, you know, have the obligation to articulate our concerns and want to make sure that this project team, you know, captures them, and you know we'll make sure that the other agencies know. But they already know what the issues are. So I just wanted to 337 00:59:19.050 --> 00:59:37.760 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: share that. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And II just wanna say, you know Bruce and Tammy. I so appreciate the feedback, and I wanna make sure that you all are aware that we'll definitely will do the internal communication as well to our agency partners and make sure that they're looped in on this, because I think that there's a 338 00:59:37.770 --> 00:59:53.079 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: responsibility to also be advocating between, you know, agencies that are au often engaging with one another. And so I just wanted to make sure that I also shared just, you know, additional insights on what can help make sure that voices being heard. So II really appreciate your 339 00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:59.189 Navi [she/her], Caltrain Gov Affairs: your feedback here, and it definitely is not falling on deaf ears. So thank you, Bruce, and thank you. Tammy 340 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:11.460 Allison Albericci: and Bruce and Tammy. I'll just mention very quickly that we are aware that Cta's starting up the pre environmental study for Pax 341 01:00:11.560 --> 01:00:17.359 Allison Albericci: and our team Member Amnon, who's on the call tonight? 342 01:00:17.430 --> 01:00:30.530 Allison Albericci: is part of that working group team. So we are tracking with that project, and we'll continue to express the concerns we've heard tonight to our partners at Cta. 343 01:00:40.720 --> 01:00:42.669 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Great, thank you. Any other comment. 344 01:00:44.200 --> 01:00:49.750 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thoughts more more related to the public realm. As I mentioned earlier, the 345 01:00:49.820 --> 01:00:53.959 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): the document will be available for review and additional comment. 346 01:00:54.820 --> 01:01:08.909 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So everybody's welcome to look into that in more detail. Please let us know about those crossings that that you see getting a little more tricky and complicated. Please feel welcome to bring them to Google's attention in the document. 347 01:01:10.730 --> 01:01:29.980 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Okay, well, with that, I think we have. We're already 4 min over our our time. I'm gonna be very, very brief with this last item, and then I'm gonna pass it on to Alison. And if there are any additional comments or clarifying questions we can go back to those in the end. 348 01:01:30.070 --> 01:01:42.500 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So I'm coming back to you with an update on the context dashboard. I also just very briefly wanted to let you know that as feedback is coming through, I'm incorporating your comments in the public participation framework. 349 01:01:42.500 --> 01:02:00.269 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): They are in track changes. So you can see where we've been making changes to the document. And we're hoping to update the schedule of public participation events and and the strategies just to meet where where we are with the with the project and and project partners. 350 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:05.650 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So that will be coming to you for the next next time we meet. 351 01:02:05.710 --> 01:02:08.380 Okay, so the 352 01:02:08.570 --> 01:02:33.059 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): context dashboard. This is the executive summary of executive summaries that we've been asked to look into. And hopefully, it'll be a tool. So you can review previous planning policy documents and community input in relation to the themes that are emerging in that are emerging in these meetings, but also new city policy, like the environmental justice framework. 353 01:02:33.710 --> 01:02:35.340 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Next slide, please. 354 01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:43.099 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): There is a link in this presentation to the context. Dashboard the context. The the dashboard is A is an Excel file. 355 01:02:43.290 --> 01:02:50.149 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): basically what it does it. It connects the themes that have emerged at the rail yards, working group meetings 356 01:02:50.290 --> 01:03:03.110 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): with existing neighborhood plan goals or recommendations or community input and where they fit with in terms of the environmental justice frameworks and priorities. 357 01:03:03.380 --> 01:03:15.149 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): I'm not gonna have a chance to go in detail. But we've made a a small video that is also at the same saving the same collaborative location. 358 01:03:15.180 --> 01:03:35.919 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So the video will take you through what the what the parts of the dashboard are and and how to use it. It's mostly to filter by theme, so that you can see what policies, goals, and objectives are. Are there to support some of the themes that are emerging from our conversations? 359 01:03:36.190 --> 01:03:42.509 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): I'll send with the meeting minutes also a link to the video, a direct link to the video. 360 01:03:42.620 --> 01:03:44.470 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): And next slide, please. 361 01:03:45.030 --> 01:03:56.710 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): II wanted to share just very, very quickly this analysis that we did so, based on the documents that we have analyzed so far, which are listed here. 362 01:03:57.090 --> 01:04:01.199 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): broken down by the themes that have come up in this group 363 01:04:01.210 --> 01:04:14.170 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): which include the balance of economic viability, operational needs and community benefits, community services, ground floor activation and use open space and streets, connectivity, housing and equity. 364 01:04:14.410 --> 01:04:28.999 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): What we can see is that there are certain themes, which are very well supported in these policy documents, including community services. As you can see there open space and streets connectivity. 365 01:04:29.150 --> 01:04:37.910 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So hopefully, the the dashboard will provide an overview of what the prior efforts are, but also some of the ongoing efforts. 366 01:04:38.090 --> 01:05:00.679 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): and perhaps a sense of of confidence that we're not leaving any of these efforts behind, but that we're able to bring them forward with us. And that the work advancing these elements that have been discussed in this meeting is is supported by by policy, but also by prior community. Input 367 01:05:00.890 --> 01:05:08.740 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): so I'd really I'd be very curious to hear your feedback. I'll leave it with you for a synchronous review. 368 01:05:08.780 --> 01:05:24.360 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Please feel welcome to leave comments and and just, you know, or send us a send us an email because we continue to work on the dashboard, adding new input and and just working for completeness and consistency. 369 01:05:24.540 --> 01:05:35.530 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): So thank you, I hope you get a chance to explore it. And because we're running out of time, I'm gonna pass it on to Alison to take us through our our closing and next steps. 370 01:05:39.850 --> 01:05:45.590 Allison Albericci: Thanks, Erica, and and thanks everybody for the input and the the great comments. 371 01:05:46.520 --> 01:06:02.580 Allison Albericci: so we have a lot of work to do on our plate. Of course. We continue to benefit from the coordinator support. Thank you so much to. 372 01:06:02.620 --> 01:06:18.530 Allison Albericci: The folks who helped us! Pull together this agenda and helped us prioritize the conversation. We are also looking to continue putting together opportunities to meet in person. 373 01:06:18.610 --> 01:06:31.799 Allison Albericci: And this was something suggested by one of our coordinators. Don, I think, introduced this idea on. Unfortunately, I don't think he was able to make it tonight. But, 374 01:06:32.110 --> 01:06:34.220 Allison Albericci: We will look for 375 01:06:35.010 --> 01:06:48.410 Allison Albericci: opportunities to meet import in person. And and also we're looking forward to your continued review of the context dashboard on the city team side. We're going to follow up 376 01:06:48.570 --> 01:06:49.620 Allison Albericci: on 377 01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:54.860 Allison Albericci: the policy framework with the other Cac's 378 01:06:54.890 --> 01:06:58.769 Allison Albericci: and thank you, Bruce, for providing some contacts for us? 379 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:24.769 Allison Albericci: We're gonna start looking specifically at our public realm strategies toolkit. And Hugo sort of hinted where we're headed with that with one of his last slides on the the types of interventions, for example, that could help with storm water management. So we'll be looking at a kind of a toolbox of strategies. 380 01:07:24.770 --> 01:07:35.059 Allison Albericci: backing away a little bit from the the full network analysis and and going more into detail and then 381 01:07:35.370 --> 01:07:37.309 Allison Albericci: zooming back out 382 01:07:37.490 --> 01:07:40.980 Allison Albericci: at a later time. So 383 01:07:41.050 --> 01:07:42.860 Allison Albericci: we have that on our list. 384 01:07:43.050 --> 01:07:49.200 Allison Albericci: We're going to be coordinating with the portal packs and the Sixth Street Sewer project 385 01:07:49.270 --> 01:08:01.119 Allison Albericci: and we're gonna be thinking a lot about how to communicate the complexity of the site and all of the infrastructure as well as the timing 386 01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:10.450 Allison Albericci: and the issues of of phasing. So that's where we're sort of headed. 387 01:08:10.600 --> 01:08:25.870 Allison Albericci: What we'd like right now is is for your thoughts on how we proceed with this group in the first quarter of 2024. So the reality is. 388 01:08:25.979 --> 01:08:34.359 Allison Albericci: There's certain work that we can advance, and we are going to advance that, and there's plenty to do. 389 01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:44.010 Allison Albericci: We are also needing to allow the preliminary business case that caltrain is working on 390 01:08:44.040 --> 01:08:45.869 Allison Albericci: to advance. 391 01:08:45.880 --> 01:09:01.390 Allison Albericci: and it is taking a bit longer than we anticipated. A year ago, when we set out the timeline for the work that we would be doing in parallel. So I wanted to put it out to this group. 392 01:09:01.540 --> 01:09:06.280 Allison Albericci: you know there, there are some options for how we can 393 01:09:06.340 --> 01:09:07.869 Allison Albericci: meat 394 01:09:07.899 --> 01:09:14.979 Allison Albericci: next quarter. Of course, a touch point in February, maybe with some possible 395 01:09:15.050 --> 01:09:16.740 Allison Albericci: site walks. 396 01:09:16.859 --> 01:09:27.339 Allison Albericci: and this could include another group tour of the area surrounding the rail yard. We've also heard some interest in the Mission Rock project 397 01:09:27.380 --> 01:09:36.450 Allison Albericci: and perhaps facilitating a tour of that project as it's coming out of the ground. And then 398 01:09:36.550 --> 01:09:41.960 Allison Albericci: For March, which would be our normal 399 01:09:42.140 --> 01:09:48.910 Allison Albericci: first quarter check-in time we we may have a formal meeting 400 01:09:49.010 --> 01:10:01.630 Allison Albericci: similar to what we've had here, or we also have the option of doing something more social or something that is a combination of both. So 401 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:05.719 Allison Albericci: for the working group members. Do you? 402 01:10:05.740 --> 01:10:19.460 Allison Albericci: Do you sort of have any preferences about that or other ideas in terms of how you would like to engage with us and with each other. In the next quarter. 403 01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:44.220 Krute Singa: I'll I'll just you know II was part of the coordinators. But I would just 404 01:10:44.770 --> 01:10:58.240 Krute Singa: you know, put a plugin for more site tours and kind of engaging with other folks on the working group that way. I think that would just be helpful to to get site tours and and talk about the project 405 01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.170 Krute Singa: at the site itself. Yeah. 406 01:11:01.810 --> 01:11:03.850 Allison Albericci: thanks, Krudy. Much appreciated. 407 01:11:10.650 --> 01:11:15.500 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): I see a comment from Michael as well that that he is 408 01:11:15.750 --> 01:11:27.029 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): He supports the a synchronous work that we've been doing on documents and presentations, and we will continue that, Michael. Thank you for the feedback and for providing comments. 409 01:11:37.870 --> 01:11:41.390 Allison Albericci: Okay? Oh, I see. Go ahead, Liz 410 01:11:47.090 --> 01:11:50.009 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Lisa's added to the chat that 411 01:11:50.040 --> 01:12:05.900 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): she would like to be able to meet in person, and was sorry to me miss the previous tour. Yeah, we we will also are learning lessons. So next time we'll definitely provide more lead times to make sure more people can 412 01:12:06.320 --> 01:12:10.329 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): can join us. So thank you, Liz, we'll keep that in mind. 413 01:12:10.740 --> 01:12:16.990 Liz Kirby (she/her): Awesome. No, thank you so much, Erica. I was sad to miss the last one. So that's a possibility. I think that would be great. 414 01:12:17.950 --> 01:12:19.200 Allison Albericci: absolutely. 415 01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:26.299 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): and Tammy, appreciating materials ahead of meetings as well. 416 01:12:26.620 --> 01:12:38.280 Erika Uribe (consultant w/ SF Planning): Thank you. Tell me, in some materials we're working till the last minutes and last minute, and we're unable to share earlier, but as much as possible we will continue to to try to provide materials ahead. 417 01:12:39.230 --> 01:12:41.700 Allison Albericci: Yes. Note taken. 418 01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:44.610 Allison Albericci: Okay. 419 01:12:47.770 --> 01:12:54.150 Allison Albericci: if if that is, all the thoughts. I just really wanna thank everybody 420 01:12:54.260 --> 01:13:20.070 Allison Albericci: for your time and and for for making the time to to be here with us tonight and and to engage in this work. We're we're just so thankful for your contribution and hope. Everybody has really just a joyous, delightful holiday season and a happy New Year, and we look forward to seeing you again in January or February. 421 01:13:23.650 --> 01:13:31.490 Hugo Errazuriz, AECOM UD: Great! Thank you. Thank you. Happy holidays, thanks everyone. Thank you so much.